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1997-07-08 18:20(idm) Re: in concert
1997-07-09 00:44Dori Re: (idm) Re: in concert
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1997-07-08 18:20VeeHead@aol.comtweibrecht@juno.com wrote: >>anyone go to that afro-celt soundsytem/transglobal undergroun
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tweibrecht@juno.com wrote:
quoted 1 line anyone go to that afro-celt soundsytem/transglobal underground/talvin singh>>anyone go to that afro-celt soundsytem/transglobal underground/talvin singh
xtravaganza in central park on sunday? id b interested in your impressions...<< I was there, and enjoyed Afro-Celt Sound System more than Transglobal Undergound / Natacha Atlas, which surprised me as I had had basically the opposite reaction to their albums. ACSS was more interesting visually, as they had more musicians (7 vs. 4), who moved around and interacted with each other quite a bit (their bagpipe[?] player was the only one who remained seated - apparently out of necessity). Because they were the opening band, ACSS's gear was set-up farther downstage than TU's was, and this made it a little easier for them to connect with the audience - TU seemed pretty far away. TU did a little bit of running around the stage, and Natacha Atlas did a bit of belly-dancing, but about their biggest event in the visual department was that Atlas wore four (!) different outfits during the show. I'm not sure if others will concur, but it seemed to me that a larger proportion of ACSS's music was played live compared to TU's. I think it's usually more interesting to be able to *watch* the music being played, as opposed to just hearing it. ACSS's set started slowly, picked up steam a bit, then hit a rather turgid section near the middle. They must have realized this because they announced that things would pick up from then to the end, and they did, a bit, but there was no real shape to the energy even then as things went up and down. It was also sometimes difficult to draw distinctions between numbers, because the sounds were so similar. Almost every phrase played by the bagpiper was a restatement of a single melody, although if this is due to some limitation in the instrument I don't know. (On the plus side, when listening to their CD the pipes start grating on me and I turn it off, which didn't happen to me at the gig.) Still, when they were good the music was danceable and melodic and interesting to watch, and some of the slower numbers were fairly spacey. However, they should ditch the song they wrote about people dieing in war - not because of the subject matter, but because it was boring: it had no particular melody, didn't progress into anything and then stopped dead. For me Transglobal Underground's basic problem was that each of their songs hit a nice groove, and then managed to repeat it to death with no internal development at all. This may be okay for a venue where the entire object is to keep everyone dancing, but this is a *concert* in Central Park on a Sunday afternoon in 90 degree heat and humidity - not conditions especially conducive to all out group dancing. (Only a small percentage of the audience seemed bent on dancing no matter what - although most folks were at least bopping or keeping time. Must be hard for a dance band to deal with a house like that.) If TU is gonna do a lot of concerts, they might consider finding some way to be flexible in their arrangements, and not be preset to one length. Speaking of arrangements, my other problem with TU was that their arrangements were all essentially the same, especially the middle sections where they go: groove - pause for restatement of sampled vocal - pick up the beat square on time and continue groove until next pause. It got to be very predictable, in a not very interesting way. Still, carping aside, I'm glad I went. Ed Fitzgerald P.S. I didn't stick around for Talvin Singh's set after TU. He starting spinning before the show, at 2:00ish, but had some kind of problem with the equipment and gave up. What I heard of that aborted set and what he was playing as I left the concert area didn't strike me as overly fascinating, and I passed up another chance to pick up _Anokh_ today.
1997-07-09 00:44DoriAt 02:20 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >ACSS was more interesting visually, as they had more
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At 02:20 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines ACSS was more interesting visually, as they had more musicians (7 vs. 4), who>ACSS was more interesting visually, as they had more musicians (7 vs. 4), who >moved around and interacted with each other quite a bit (their bagpipe[?] >player was the only one who remained seated - apparently out of necessity).
Again, I'm not sure of the spelling event though my parents are traditional Irish musicians - they're called Uliean pipes, in the same family as the Scottish bagpipes except that yes, you stay seated, and I don't believe you have to "blow" into them...
quoted 4 lines I'm not sure if others will concur, but it seemed to me that a larger>I'm not sure if others will concur, but it seemed to me that a larger >proportion of ACSS's music was played live compared to TU's. I think it's >usually more interesting to be able to *watch* the music being played, as >opposed to just hearing it.
Interesting to me was seeing the mixture of African and Irish music together - I've been overexposed to Irish music - my parents live in the country in North Carolina, frequenting pubs, throwing music seminars at their cabin, and having "sessions" everywhere. Their wedding band was a combination of several well-known Irish musicians playing all of the Celtic instruments you saw during AfroCelt SS - I'd mentioned to my mother once that it was nice and all, but geez, everyone was so "white." I guess that's because I'm submerged in the multicultiblend of New York City... I personally think that they should have closed the show, actually... I danced more during their set than Natasha & company but I wish I could have seen Natasha dance more - I'd started some bellydancing classes when I lived in Atlanta... Interesting note - did you know that most of it is in the knees and waist? It was a dance started by women, much like a modern-day aerobics/lamaze class to enhance and assist in the ease of childbirth... And, of course, the seduction of men. ;-)
quoted 5 lines Still, when they were good the music was danceable and melodic and>Still, when they were good the music was danceable and melodic and >interesting to watch, and some of the slower numbers were fairly spacey. > However, they should ditch the song they wrote about people dieing in war - >not because of the subject matter, but because it was boring: it had no >particular melody, didn't progress into anything and then stopped dead.
I have to agree with you there - I was much more into the "drum & bass from the hills" number - the Boeron (again, spelling evades me, but my mother is playing the damn thing) drum doesn't usually sound like that in traditional Irish music - that guy was banging the HELL out of the thing... Usually, it's a much softer background beat...
quoted 5 lines P.S. I didn't stick around for Talvin Singh's set after TU. He starting>P.S. I didn't stick around for Talvin Singh's set after TU. He starting >spinning before the show, at 2:00ish, but had some kind of problem with the >equipment and gave up. What I heard of that aborted set and what he was >playing as I left the concert area didn't strike me as overly fascinating, >and I passed up another chance to pick up _Anokh_ today.
Anokha is a great CD although Calcutta Cybercafe was better, I think... Maybe that's because I can't get the damn CD anywhere now and want it... His set at Summerstage was definitely disappointing, and I have a feeling part of it was due to the fact that he was wearing a full-out Adidas warm-up suit in that weather... It was definitely boring - Talvin Singh doesn't seem conducive to a large open-air concert atmosphere. I'd rather hear him in a smoky opium den, myself... I'd definitely say to pick up the CD, tho, if you're into sitting around your house chilling... Burn some incense, while you're at it... I recommend Champa, for atmospheric purposes...